Sebastian Shaw - "People Not Protocols"
/Sebastian Shaw, a Clinical Social Work/Therapist and old friend of J's, joins the show to talk about the blessings and burdens of a life dedicated to helping people. They discuss how Sebastian and J met, connecting with at risk youth, training as a social worker, dealing with horrible situations and watching people get better, agency vs private practice gigs, data driven medicine, credentials and scope, and the underlying significance of rapport.
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